Wednesday, December 5, 2007

Iran and Democrats Claim Victory

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and the Democrats and their mouthpieces in the lib media are all on the same page.

They are all declaring victory, claiming to have defeated President Bush by proving him wrong.

They are slobbering all over themselves.

What did Bush know and when did he know it?


TEHRAN, Iran -- A new U.S. intelligence review concluding Iran stopped developing an atomic weapons program in 2003 is a "declaration of victory" for Iran's nuclear program, President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said Wednesday.

The U.S. intelligence report released Monday concluded that Iran had stopped its weapons program in late 2003 and shown no signs since of resuming it, representing a sharp turnaround from a previous intelligence assessment in 2005.

"This is a declaration of victory for the Iranian nation against the world powers over the nuclear issue," Ahmadinejad told thousands of people during a visit to Ilam province in western Iran.

"This was a final shot to those who, in the past several years, spread a sense of threat and concern in the world through lies of nuclear weapons ... Thanks to your resistance, a fatal shot was fired at the dreams of ill-wishers and the truthfulness of the Iranian nation was once again proved by the ill-wishers themselves," Ahmadinejad said, drawing celebratory whistles from the crowd.

Iran has touted the new U.S. intelligence report as vindication of its claims that its nuclear program is peaceful and Iranian officials insist that Washington should take a less hawkish stance and drop attempts to impose new sanctions in light of the report's surprise conclusions.

President Bush defended his approach Tuesday, and Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said it would be a "big mistake" to ease any diplomatic pressure on Iran despite the new U.S. findings.

Ahmadinejad calls the report a final and fatal shot to Bush's policy of diplomatic pressure on Iran.

Not surprisingly, the Democrats, ever useful idiots, are echoing Ahmadinejad.

From the LA Times:


Democratic presidential candidates teamed up during a National Public Radio debate here Tuesday to blast the Bush administration over its policy toward Iran, arguing that a new intelligence assessment proves that the administration has needlessly ratcheted up military rhetoric.

While the candidates differed somewhat over the level of threat Iran poses in the Mideast, most of them sought to liken the administration's approach to Iran with its buildup to the war in Iraq.

"I vehemently disagree with the president that nothing's changed and therefore nothing in American policy has to change," said New York Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton. "We do know that pressure on Iran does have an effect. I think that is an important lesson."

Delaware Sen. Joseph R. Biden Jr., chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, said the new intelligence report indicated that Iran dropped its program before international pressure came into play.

"It was like watching a rerun of his statements on Iraq five years earlier," Biden said. "Iran is not a nuclear threat to the United States of America. Iran should be dealt with directly, with the rest of the world at our side. But we've made it more difficult now, because who is going to trust us?"

...Edwards and Obama responded that they believed Iran was a threat to stability in the Mideast but that the administration was moving toward an unnecessary war.

"What I believe is that this president, who, just a few weeks ago, was talking about World War III, he, the vice president, the neocons have been on a march to possible war with Iran for a long time," Edwards said. "We know that they've prepared contingency plans for a military attack."

Obama, who missed the Kyl-Lieberman vote in the Senate because he was campaigning in New Hampshire, also drew parallels to the Iraq war buildup.

"What I've been consistent about was that this saber-rattling was a repetition of Iraq, a war I opposed, and that we needed to oppose George Bush again," Obama said. "We can't keep on giving him the benefit of the doubt, knowing the ways in which they manipulate intelligence."

It really makes me sick that these Dem candidates prefer to bash Bush and the "neocons" for saber-rattling rather than holding Ahmadinejad accountable for his defiance of the world community and his threatening, inflammatory rhetoric.

They treat the U.S. president as more of an enemy and threat to peace in the Middle East than Iran under Ahmadinejad.

While I think it's fair to question the President on Iran, it's reckless and irresponsible of them to take the emphasis off of the danger of Ahmadinejad.

He already has the blood of American troops on his hands.

Are Ahmadinejad's allies, the Dems, really serious about long term U.S. national security and the importance of stability in the Middle East?

They aren't acting like it.


If they are, how can they discount these words from Ahmadinejad?

"The Zionist regime is the standard bearer of invasion, occupation and Satan."

"With God's help, the countdown button for the destruction of the Zionist regime has been pushed by the hands of the children of Lebanon and Palestine. By God's will, we will witness the destruction of this regime in the near future."

"Israel is destined for destruction and it will disappear soon."

"As the imam said, Israel must be wiped off the map."

Do they think he's just kidding?

Are his statements kind of like those made by James Buss about the Columbine shooters as heroes and the need to take out West Bend teachers "one shot at a time"?

Just silly comments and not meant to be taken seriously?

Ahmadinejad doesn't really mean what he says. He just the master of parody, taking shots at the Bush administration's saber-rattling.

Clever guy.

4 comments:

Mark said...

The way I see it, Bush has been proven right. Iran saw that we don't back down from terrorists when we attacked Iraq. If the Intelligence report is true, Bush scared them into ceasing their nuclear program.

The WordSmith from Nantucket said...

"Iran is not a nuclear threat to the United States of America. Iran should be dealt with directly, with the rest of the world at our side. But we've made it more difficult now, because who is going to trust us?"

No one trusts us because of political kay-rap like this, and because the U.S. can't keep secrets (i.e., our press leaking sensitive intell, implicating our allies in embarrassing situations).

"We know that they've prepared contingency plans for a military attack."

I do NOT want this man to ever, ever be any where near the Presidency.

Basically, don't believe the 2005 NIE assessment or any NIE assessments unless they hurt Bush; and then, ignore anything in the NIE that doesn't serve one's political agenda...even if it's at the expense of harming one's country. (Just check out the Tehran Times- they're loving it over there!).

Unknown said...

-Ahmadinejad calls the report a final and fatal shot to Bush's policy of diplomatic pressure on Iran.-

Why do you give such power and credence to Ahmadinejad ?
whether or not he says anything is irrelevant and doesn’t change the facts at all.
The truth is the truth no matter who believes it or not.

And the truth here is, in FACT that the report is a shot to Bush's policy of diplomatic pressure on Iran. He has, once again, show himself to be out of touch with reality and all too willing to present suppositions as facts, to mischaracterize a situation and to LIE in order to further his agenda.
It’s irrelevant, now, whether his agenda is right or wrong, he has forfeited all credibility on the international front and therefore has shamed and dis-empowered the US.

-Not surprisingly, the Democrats, ever useful idiots, are echoing Ahmadinejad.-

No one is “echoing Ahmadinejad”. Many are simply stating fact and truth. Again, it is irrelevant what Ahmadinejad says; it neither makes it truth or un-truth. Neither does it matter wether its a “dem” or a GOP who says it. Get a life.

-It really makes me sick that these Dem candidates prefer to bash Bush and the "neocons" for saber-rattling rather than holding Ahmadinejad accountable for his defiance of the world community and his threatening, inflammatory rhetoric.-

You are truly an idiot. No one holds these two separate positions mutually exclusive. They are BOTH true. Yet no world leader has defied the world community or proliferated threatening, inflammatory rhetoric more than George W Bush. Again this is a FACT.
As for what you call “bashing bush for sabre rattling” that is the right of every American and the duty of those in Congress.
While it may be cool on the grade school play ground or a sunday matinee, on the stage of world politics it is irresponsible, ineffective and downright dangerous.
It’s brings America down to the level of third world despots and wannabes.

-They treat the U.S. president as more of an enemy and threat to peace in the Middle East than Iran under Ahmadinejad.-

Yes, and the entire rest of the planet, for the first time in history, also believes, by a substantial majority, that bush IS the number one threat to peace in the middle east.
The actual facts of the past 6 years would add tremendous credibility to this assertion, as well.

-While I think it's fair to question the President on Iran, it's reckless and irresponsible of them to take the emphasis off of the danger of Ahmadinejad.-

No one has done that. In fact, they have been quite insistent on addressing the situation, sans threats, in more proven and effective ways.
Look at the North Korea Situation. Bush simply refused to talk, negotiate, engage.. and went NOWHERE. When the Dems made overtures and opened up talks, the situation was resolved. And it was effective and cheap; no saber rattling included.

-He already has the blood of American troops on his hands.-


Not anywhere near the amount that bush does. You can include the victims of 9-11, the 4000 US casualties, the tens of thousands of US injured and the near hundred thousand innocent iraqis, as well as countless others that have been casualties of many other policies.

-Are Ahmadinejad's allies, the Dems, really serious about long term U.S. national security and the importance of stability in the Middle East?-

It’s really offensive to equate embracing truth and fact with allying with anyone else.
And it ‘s this sort of moronic rhetoric and mischaracterization that has diminished this country, it’s people and government.
If I took this same tact, I could make the case that the “neo-cons” are allies of Bin-Laden because they supported unseating Hussein (as BL did) and have allowed him (BL) to remain free for more than six years now. How else could one fairly average man elude the most powerful and sophisticated armed force in the history of our planet for such a long time, and continue to lead, provoke, inspire maintain followers,and remaining a public figure ?

If you’re REALLY interested in long term security, you may consider that it is precisely this divisiveness that has made this country vulnerable. bush’s policies and behavior may play well as sound-bites, but in the end he has precluded the US from being able to effectively address the world situation by abdicating a leadership role, by fostering mistrust and suspicion in the US’s motives and completely destroying our credibility on an international scale.

August Danowski said...

Two days ago, the President of the United States told this country that he had never been told that Iran might have suspended its nuclear weapons program. Today, the White House is admitting that the President was, in fact, told in AUGUST (4 months ago!) that there was intelligence indicating the Iranian weapons program might have been suspended.

I seem to recall republicans and neo-cons getting very upset when another President lied to the country ("I did not have sexual relations with that woman") -- where is that republican outrage now? Where are the calls for impeachment from the right?

Oh, wait - 9/11 changed everything. So now, apparently, it is OK for the President to make bold-faced lies, especially when justifying going to war with yet another country (as opposed to simply having an affair, which is something roughly 50% of married people do).

I wonder if republicans will remember that lying is now OK the next time a democrat is in the White House? Probably not, as they seem to have forgotten that lying was bad in the first place sometime in January, 2001.