Saturday, September 6, 2008

Joe Biden in Green Bay on Monday

UPDATE, September 8, 2008: Packer Fan Joe Biden in Green Bay
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Joe Biden will be campaigning in Green Bay on Monday.

Some event details, from the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel:

The Biden event is at 9 a.m. Monday at the KI Convention Center, 333 Main St. Doors open at 8 a.m. It's free, but tickets are required.

To get a ticket, you can call or visit one of five campaign offices in the area after noon today (information from the Obama campaign):

In Green Bay, 1041 Velp Ave. (920) 490-9100

In Appleton, 214 E College Ave. (920) 735-4989

In Manitowoc, 1207 Washington St. (920) 682-7392

In Sturgeon Bay, 82 South 3rd Ave. (920) 559-8200

In Marinette, 1703 Marinette Ave. (920) 254-8238

Biden is holding a town hall meeting.

I don't know if that's a good idea. Those can be so tricky for him.

When he's in a town hall format, he's apt to pander and the pandering often brings out lies.

He'll say anything.

A recent example, from an event in Deerfield, Florida:


QUESTION: I'd like to know if you guys are going to pursue the violations that have been made against our Constitution by the present administration and restore the Constitution to its rightful place in our society.

BIDEN: Yes.

That's very easy to understand.

But the next morning when Biden was asked about his remarks, he denied saying what he did.

Biden lies. Actually, he lies quite a bit.

I heard Mark Levin talk about a whopper of a lie told by Delaware Sen. Biden.

From the
Delaware News Journal:
Since his vice presidential nomination, Joe Biden's 2007 statement that a "guy who allegedly ... drank his lunch" and drove the truck that struck and killed his first wife and daughter has gained national media traction.

Alcohol didn't play a role in the 1972 crash, investigators found. But as recently as last week, the syndicated TV show Inside Edition aired a clip from 2001 of Biden describing the accident to an audience at the University of Delaware and saying the truck driver "stopped to drink instead of drive."

The senator's statements don't jibe with news and law enforcement reports from the time, which cleared driver Curtis C. Dunn, who died in 1999, of wrongdoing.

"To see it coming from [Biden's] mouth, I just burst into tears," Dunn's daughter, Glasgow resident Pamela Hamill, 44, said Wednesday. "My dad was always there for us. Now we feel like we should be there for him because he's not here to defend himself."

Biden spokesman David Wade said Wednesday that the senator "fully accepts the Dunn family's word that these rumors were false."

It's unclear who first suggested alcohol was a factor in the crash, but since Barack Obama tapped Biden to be his running mate on Aug. 23, The New York Times, National Public Radio and The Economist have run stories that characterized Dunn as a drunken driver.

"The rumor about alcohol being involved by either party, especially the truck driver, is incorrect," said Jerome O. Herlihy, a Delaware Superior Court judge who was chief deputy attorney general and worked with crash investigators in 1972.

OK. It's unclear who first said that Dunn was drunk, but it's very clear that there's no real, high profile attempt by Biden to clarify the matter.

The driver wasn't drunk. That part of the story is a BIG lie that won't die.

For example, Katie Couric kept that embellishment of Biden's alive in an interview she conducted with Biden's son, Joseph "Beau" Biden III.

COURIC: You know, [Sen. Joe Biden] got quite emotional. I’m not sure if you were there when he spoke before the Delaware convention earlier today.

Mr. BIDEN: We were.

COURIC: And he talked a little bit about the tragedies and the tough times he’d faced in his life. And, you know, one of the toughest times clearly was when he lost your mom, his first wife, and your little sister in a drunk driving accident. Drunk driver killed them. You were in the car with your brother, but you all were badly hurt but survived.

Mr. BIDEN: Mm-hmm.

COURIC: He’s also gone through a lot of challenges and disappointments since, none of course as devastating as that. But where does he get his resilience and strength?

Mr. BIDEN: Well, you know, look, it was an accident that a lot–a lot of families go through, a tragedy that many families experience. And his strength is in his faith and in his family. And the reason he got
emotional–the reason I got emotional–I was there–is because these are the Delaware Democrats, the first time we’ve been with them, that are our family. They were there for the good times, the bad times. They’ve embraced our family from the 1972 forward. And it was an emotional experience to share with them out here in Denver with my dad about to be the nominee for vice president.

Couric says "drunk driving accident" and "drunk driver," yet Beau Biden makes no correction.

He's a grown man. Doesn't he know the truth?

It's inexcusable for him to permit that lie to be circulated.

Sen. Joe Biden should set the record straight NOW.

...Hamill said it wasn't until the Inside Edition report that she became aware that the Delaware senator had said alcohol played a role in the accident. Dunn did not consume any alcohol the day of the crash, Hamill said.

She said she immediately called Biden's office after being contacted by Inside Edition and is waiting for the senator's response.

"The family feels these statements are both hurtful and untrue and we didn't know where they originated from," Hamill said.

As Hamill watched a recording of the Inside Edition report Wednesday, she gasped when the clip of Biden's comments from Iowa came on screen.

After reading a News Journal account of Biden's 2001 speech at UD, Hamill sent Biden a letter on behalf of her father. The newspaper story included Biden's description of getting the call that his wife and daughter had died, but not his comments about Dunn.

Hamill said her note to the senator described how Dunn was affected by the accident.

Printed on the senator's letter head and dated Oct. 11, 2001, the response from Biden reads:

"I apologize for taking so long to acknowledge your thoughtful and heartfelt note," Biden wrote. "All that I can say is I am sorry for all of us and please know that neither I nor my sons feel any animosity whatsoever."

Curtis C. Dunn was NOT drunk.

Maybe someone at that town hall meeting on Monday in Green Bay can ask Joe Biden to explain why he lied about the accident, get him to own up to the pain he continues to cause Mr. Dunn's family.

Perhaps the liberal media and Katie Couric can take a little time off from sliming Sarah Palin and do lead stories about the big Biden lie.

Perhaps they can obsess about that for a while.

Joe Biden is a liar. If he lies about the accident that killed his wife and daughter, what else is he lying about?

Barack Obama and Joe Biden promise change.

Biden can make good on that by changing his version of his tragic story and tell the truth. He should personally admit that he lied and the national media should prominently cover his retraction.

5 comments:

factcheck said...

To the gossip/writer of this website:
GET A LIFE!
Write about the issues that matter to people in America!
IE: low wages, outsourced and lost jobs, health coverage, elite republicans avoiding taxes.
In college I learned to fact check.
List your sources.
MCCAIN VOTES AGAINST VETS
Fact Check that one!

Mary said...

To the writer of the above comment (a.k.a. factcheck):

My post isn't gossip. My sources are included. More links to facts and video here.

Is the Delaware News Journal a tabloid, a gossip rag? No.

There's no gossip here, just the facts, "factcheck."

Biden lies. That's an issue worth noting.

Frogspond said...

And McCain/Palin don't?

McCain's lies from his acceptance speach: http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/factchecking_mccain.html

Palin's lies from her RNC speach: http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/gop_convention_spin_part_ii.html

No offense but every political candidate lies in one form or another. That is the nature of the system that all of us have created here in America. It is a beauty contest verses a debate. Sound bites have replaced substance. Retoric has replaced thinking and researching.

Mary said...

You're changing the subject.

I'm talking about Biden's lies.

Whether it's from the Right or the Left, political spin and distortion bug me.

Biden's lie about Dunn being drunk, and killing his wife and daughter, is in a different league. I don't know how Biden could lie about the deaths of his wife and daughter.

Mary said...

Some lie more than others.