Tuesday, November 13, 2012

Texas Petition to Secede

The United States without Texas?

From ABC News:

A petition for Texas to secede from the union, submitted to the White House, reached the number of signatures needed to draw comment from the Obama administration today.

The petition appeared on a section of the White House website called "We the People" that invites users with a U.S. zip code to submit or sign petitions about policy changes they would like to see. A petition must reach 25,000 signatures within 30 days for the administration to comment on it.

The petition to "Peacefully grant the State of Texas to withdraw from the United States of America and create its own NEW government," was submitted on Friday of last week. Just three days later, it zoomed past the 25,000 mark at 3:22 p.m. today and kept going.

In order to sign a petition, users must register with the site using a valid email address and entering their zip code. The site's terms of participation indicates it has mechanisms in place to block spam, but it does not say anything about verifying zip codes or state residency.

...At least 17 other states have similar petitions to the Texas secession request on the We the People forum including New Jersey, New York, Montana, Colorado, Louisiana, Georgia, Alabama, Arkansas, Florida, Indiana, North Carolina, Kentucky, Mississippi, Missouri, South Carolina, Oregon and Michigan. The closest behind Texas was Louisiana with 15,617 signatures.

In 2009, Texas Gov. Rick Perry hinted that anti-Washington sentiment could lead residents of his state to seek independence from the union.

...So far, the president has not commented on the petition and there is no guarantee that he will. The terms of participation give the president some loopholes.

"To avoid the appearance of improper influence, the White House may decline to address certain procurement, law enforcement, adjudicatory, or similar matters properly within the jurisdiction of federal departments or agencies, federal courts, or state and local government in its response to a petition," the site says.
A couple of days ago, we were talking about the U.S. splitting up, due to irreconcilable differences.

It's an interesting thought.

Given the great divide in the country, I would love to leave the liberals to their leeching ways without a host.

To be clear, I consider the leeches the people who have made a career out of government dependency. They're fully capable of working but they don't, the "gimme" crowd, the irresponsible.

They aren't the same as people receiving benefits they've earned. They aren't the same as people in crisis. Caring for those in need is a moral obligation. Intentionally creating a society of the needy, enslaving people with government entitlements, creating government addicts, is immoral.

In the event of secession, the country of dependents would crumble and the country made of people who value freedom and believe they are capable of determining their destiny would prosper.

Secession is tempting.

I'd like Wisconsin to secede, but how could we leave Milwaukee and Madison behind?

Milwaukee would be easy enough to drop because it's located on the state's eastern border. Madison would be more messy. Maybe we could get the Madison libs to move to Milwaukee.

I'm so sick of working hard and being responsible, only to pick up the bill for the irresponsible and lazy.

A sure sign that I've reached my breaking point is that the notion of seceding from the Union is something even remotely desirable.

What will Obama do with four more years, especially with his "flexibility"? I shudder at the thought.

I certainly don't want to leave America. I love my country. But the thing is I feel like America is leaving me. Obama's America isn't the same country that so many fought and died to defend. Obama and his cohorts are fundamentally transforming my beloved homeland into something other than the land of the free.

Yes, it's depressing. It helps to remember that half of us have a very different vision. We still believe in the American Dream and see America as the land of opportunity. We want to take responsibility for ourselves. We don't want government to control our lives.

Time to secede?

No, of course not.

Time to read the Declaration of Independence?


When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.
We can't give up or give in, but I am so very tired. 

"These are the times that try men's souls."

What we need is a "conservative spring."


30 States Petition Federal Government to Secede After Election
•South Carolina
•New York
•New Jersey
•North Dakota
•North Carolina


jimspice said...

I'd gladly send y'all on your merry way. Tell you what. Let's just split based on these last electoral college results. But to tidy things up a bit, we'll need to swap east for west in the 4-corners states (I't'd be sad to see CO go), and we'd trade you our FL for your MO, IN, KY and WV. So we end up with: http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/311194_4826653434619_1319929829_n.jpg

Josh K. said...

Earned? Is paying into a system 30 to 40¢ & expecting a dollar back earned.

Even if the government was envesting it; which they are not, that is a pretty steep ROI.

Just saying,
Josh A. Kruschke
Austin, TX