John Ziegler of KFI AM 640 interviewed Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul on Tuesday, the anniversary of 9/11.
The solemn day didn't temper Paul's looniness.
Paul said that 9/11 "wasn't an inside job, but I don't think we've had the real truth either."
Not an inside job. Wow.
Paul gets points for not being as crazy as Rosie O'Donnell or Kevin Barrett.
This exchange was priceless:
What a leader!
Good grief.
I don't understand how Paul has managed to get anyone to support him. He's a nut.
We know Paul is weird.
He's that goofy, inconsequential candidate -- the comic relief.
Some more bizarre, "Dale Gribble" sort of comments:
Typical Ron Paul drivel. It's reckless and irresponsible, the rantings of a fool. He's not a player in this election. He's a joke.
The following comments from Paul, however, aren't the least bit funny. When talking about Iraq, Paul bashes the troops.
It's plain and simple. His words aren't taken out of context. They are what they are -- SICK.
When Ziegler remarks that we haven't been attacked since 9/11, Paul responds:
This U.S. PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE said that mall security guards are doing a better job than Marines in Iraq.
That's inexcusable. It's an absolutely reprehensible remark.
He completely dismisses how honorably the Marines are serving in Iraq, their courage and their sacrifice.
Ron Paul has always been irrelevant on the '08 presidential landscape. The one and only reason he's received any attention at all is because of his band of crazed supporters, the odd phenomenon of Paul's appeal, the Paul cult.
But after this interview, his campaign is dead. It's over.
Paul doesn't deserve to stand on the same stage as the other Republican candidates and debate with them. He doesn't deserve to be included as part of the Republican '08 field.
No reasonable American would support him.
The man isn't just a joke. He's a disgrace, to himself and the nation.
Paul owes the Marines an apology.
He owes their families an apology.
Paul owes every man and woman who has served in Iraq and elsewhere in the War on Terror an apology.
Paul should apologize to all Americans and fade away.
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Hear the full interview here.
The solemn day didn't temper Paul's looniness.
Paul said that 9/11 "wasn't an inside job, but I don't think we've had the real truth either."
Not an inside job. Wow.
Paul gets points for not being as crazy as Rosie O'Donnell or Kevin Barrett.
This exchange was priceless:
Zig: Now, you're running for president, Ron Paul. When would you go to war?
Paul: When it's declared.
What a leader!
Zig: OK, what would be a good cause to declare a war?
Paul: Somebody attacked us.
Zig: And you don't think we were attacked on 9/11.
Paul: Not by a country.
Zig: So unless you're attacked by a country with a flag, and a state, and some boundaries, you don't go to war.
Paul: Well, how can you go to war against a tactic? Terrorism is a tactic.
Zig: I agree with that.
Paul: Timothy, Timothy McVeigh was a terrorist. Did we declare war after that?
Zig: Well, wait a minute. Hold on a second. Timothy McVeigh was not linked to a worldwide...
Paul: You don't know.
Zig: Well, there's no evidence...
Paul: There's some people who think that he might have been.
Zig: There's no evidence that he was.
Paul: But I'm saying that terrorism isn't easy to define.
Zig: To compare 9/11 to Timothy McVeigh, to me, shows an incredible amount of ignorance about the nature of Islamic facism.
Good grief.
I don't understand how Paul has managed to get anyone to support him. He's a nut.
We know Paul is weird.
He's that goofy, inconsequential candidate -- the comic relief.
Some more bizarre, "Dale Gribble" sort of comments:
Paul: Our greatest threat to our freedom is our own government.
Paul: We have done more to undermine our liberties than the al Qaeda has ever done to us.
Typical Ron Paul drivel. It's reckless and irresponsible, the rantings of a fool. He's not a player in this election. He's a joke.
The following comments from Paul, however, aren't the least bit funny. When talking about Iraq, Paul bashes the troops.
It's plain and simple. His words aren't taken out of context. They are what they are -- SICK.
When Ziegler remarks that we haven't been attacked since 9/11, Paul responds:
Paul:No, because we're over there and they get to kill us so much easier, while we're over there in their yard.
Zig:Wait, wait a minute. Get to kill...That's an insult to our military, Congressman. Get to kill us? You don't think that our military...
Paul: It makes it a lot easier to kill Americans when we're in their country than it is to come over here.
Zig:Wait a minute. It's a hell of a lot easier, to use your terminology, to blow up a mall, if they could pull it off, because people in a mall aren't armed.
Paul: But we have security...
Zig: So you're saying security guards in a mall do a better job than U.S. Marines in Iraq?
Paul: So far. So far they're doing pretty well.
This U.S. PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE said that mall security guards are doing a better job than Marines in Iraq.
That's inexcusable. It's an absolutely reprehensible remark.
He completely dismisses how honorably the Marines are serving in Iraq, their courage and their sacrifice.
Ron Paul has always been irrelevant on the '08 presidential landscape. The one and only reason he's received any attention at all is because of his band of crazed supporters, the odd phenomenon of Paul's appeal, the Paul cult.
But after this interview, his campaign is dead. It's over.
Paul doesn't deserve to stand on the same stage as the other Republican candidates and debate with them. He doesn't deserve to be included as part of the Republican '08 field.
No reasonable American would support him.
The man isn't just a joke. He's a disgrace, to himself and the nation.
Paul owes the Marines an apology.
He owes their families an apology.
Paul owes every man and woman who has served in Iraq and elsewhere in the War on Terror an apology.
Paul should apologize to all Americans and fade away.
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Hear the full interview here.
24 comments:
How can you blame Paul for your not understanding what he said.
He doesn't work on sound bites
You have to know the man and then when you study his work you will understand his words.
http://community.livejournal.com/ronpaul2008/110779.html
LOL Ron Understands the core of our problems. Heres a video you should watch. Don't faint ok!
But after this interview, his campaign is dead. It's over.
I don't think so (like, it ever really had a chance to begin with)....he's said a lot of silly things, and he's still campaigning. Unless this radio interview gets a lot of airplay in the MSM, he'll live to rant another day. He was on the Michael Medved Show, last week.
Did you see the hordes of Paulmites pouring from the woodworks at Sparks from the Anvil and Flopping Aces? Must have done about 5 posts on RP last weekend, just to get a reaction out of his minions. It was like kicking over an anthill and watching the piss ants rant and rave about their prophet, Ron Paul.
Do you really subscribe to the simplistic notion that terrorism pops up out of nowhere and not as a reaction to our own imposition of morality in a country?
Maybe you just don't want to look at American history, and how much our government's actions in the Middle East have caused extremist movements over decades. I'm not sure what your feeling is, but it isn't reverence for the people who died. You don't show reverence for people in the service who are dying by sending more to join them.
Shame on you.
Anonymous #1: I listened to the entire interview. I didn't cherry pick sound bites.
WS: I think this latest lunacy could be a serious problem for Paul.
Kerry's idiotic comment about the troops being stupid ended his hopes to run again.
I hope Paul is held accountable and he goes away.
Anonymous 1:20 AM, September 13, 2007: Perfect illustration of "Blame America First."
To say I don't have reverence for those who have died is totally off base.
"He's not a player in this election. He's a joke."
And you're no player as as political pundit, columnist, journalist. blogger or whatever you define your dribbling, ill-informed scribbling as.
You left out the radio guy agreeing with Paul about who we should fear (the government). Have you ever read Jefferson, Patrick Henry, Washington? Maybe you think they are nuts? King George did. If you read the founders of our country you would find that Ron Paul is echoing many of their points. It's valid to disagree with Ron Paul on issues---but you are showing your ignorance big time.
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Most of the most rabid Paulites in my meetups are ex-Military (typically Marines). I think that says a lot about your foolish position that Paul owes service personnel an apology.
You need to look up "ad hominem" - because that's all your blog post is. There's no factual argument, no debate. Paul says Fact X, you say "PAUL IS CRAZY LOL" ... it shows you haven't the faintest idea wtf you are talking about. Do us, and yourself, a favor: cure your ignorance, please.
Wow! Here they come again. Welcome back members of the Official Ron Paul messageboard. Its nice to have all 26 of his supporters dropping by.
Maybe you need to do a little reading of history and politics to understand more about Americas role in the world. People with your mentality are the opposite of what America is about. Do not forget that the marines are fighting to defend freedon and liberty not empire and occupation.
Oh and by the way like half the people at the Ron Paul event I just attended are ex_military so chew on that.
For those that like the blinders of "status quo" and who wish to believe what has been spoon fed to them, of course the principles of freedom sound crazy. Why do away with what you've been led to believe is "comfortable" for the unknown? Maybe if you were a bit more informed or would like to remove your "rose colored glasses" you could see things a bit more clearly.
"But after this interview, his campaign is dead. It's over."
You sure about that? Care to wager? *wink*
"Paul doesn't deserve to stand on the same stage as the other Republican candidates and debate with them. He doesn't deserve to be included as part of the Republican '08 field."
Why, because he is the only one on the stage saying something Different? Yes, he is weird. Yes, he is crazy... and when compared to the rest of the "candidates" on that stage, I choose Ron Paul hands down. I support the Constitution, do you?
"No reasonable American would support him."
Meet another unreasonable American.
"The man isn't just a joke. He's a disgrace, to himself and the nation." I would argue that people like you are a disgrace to
"Paul owes the Marines an apology.
He owes their families an apology."
That is why he has the most amount of financial campaign support from the Military? Because
"Paul owes every man and woman who has served in Iraq and elsewhere in the War on Terror an apology."
"Paul should apologize to all Americans and fade away."
Take your own advice, "Mary".
Your post is incredulous at best and distasteful at worse. Your attempt at spouting hatred toward the good Dr just shows your level of intelligence, though looking at the rest of your 'blog', it is evident you have none.
Say his campaign is silly and stupid all you want. God forbid you attempt to make real arguments against his policies.
Oh, and Dave?
"Wow! Here they come again. Welcome back members of the Official Ron Paul messageboard. Its nice to have all 26 of his supporters dropping by."
Real Funny. No really, I'm still laughing. 40,000 RP supporters on meetup.com alone... why aren't you using that statistic? If we're going to be the Ron Paul Internet Army, at least show us in our true light.... THOUSANDS STRONG.
From: http://ronpaul.meetup.com/
"39,039 Ron Paul Supporters in 888 Groups from 719 Cities
…and 5,234 more waiting to hear when a new Meetup starts!"
For anyone who's interested, here are a couple good articles about U.S. intervention in the Middle East as early as the 1940s:
http://www.cato.org/pubs/pas/pa-159.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_intervention_in_the_Middle_East
http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0210-07.htm
This is not blame-America thinking. It's hold-American-government-accountable thinking. Often, average citizens have little control, or even knowledge, of which nations its government decides to interfere with. So am I holding you or anyone you know responsible? No. Am I saying that our leadership in the fifties had an influence on the formation of many of the extremist groups we see today, in the name of money, anti-communism, oil, and other noble causes? Most certainly. And our current government is stirring up more unrest. Can you as one person do much about this? Probably not. Neither can I. It's pretty frustrating. All we can do is say something. I think the average Iraqi citizen is pretty frustrated too. Has the U.S. ever had a homefront war? I don't mean just a bombing, but an outright, years-long war. Can you understand at the gut level the misery that is going on there? It is estimated that over 650,000 Iraqis have died as a direct result of this war, whether through being shot or having their infrastructure destroyed. Close to 16% of the entire population are now refugees, the highest number of refugees from any country in the world. Are they pissed off? Absolutely. Of course we've lost people too. Almost 4,000 soldiers. I personally disagree with our rationale for entering. You can agree as you choose. But consider the effects of our war on the civilians, bystanders, ordinary citizens of Iraq, and then just contemplate the effect that might have on their feeling towards our nation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Iraq#Humanitarian_crises
Here's another telling quote about our oil interests there, this one from Lawrence Korb, assistant defense secretary under Reagan, as the U.S. prepared its massive military assault on Iraq in 1991: "If Kuwait grew carrots, we wouldn't give a damn."
No one wants to excuse or condone violence. Some of us just don't want to see us make the same mistakes our government made decades ago. Please think carefully and deeply about this issue before villainizing... read a bit on the subject, see how it strikes you. It's not simple. Universally, people lash out because they were hurt in the past. It's a long chain of events. I can see you are feeling the hurt of violent reactions. I am too. And so are they. There are complex ripple effects at work, and it's not black and white. At some point, vengeful thinking on all sides must make way for a more balanced picture of everyone who has faced injustice throughout the years. Peace and security will begin with understanding, not by bombing the other guy into the ground. That just plants the seeds of future discord.
When I read this blog my heart sank. I really think that where we are today is on the verge of complete chaos. I think maybe the writer was intentionally sounding like he was illiterate and writes these little sentences to get traffic. I read the responses from so many Ron Paul supporters and am continually impresses with what I learn. The RP followers have taught me more about the constitution and our history than I ever learned in school. Yes I to served in the USAF and the USN and know what it means to follow orderfs even when they are illegal, and also to put my life on the line for what I believe in.
This writer more than likely was raised in a broken home, plays video games, may never have participated in organized sports, never served his country, cheated on tests and exames, and continues to fail to live up to his resume at work.
I get the feeling RP may actually become the next president. I am inspired about this election for the first time because it won't be a choice between two evils, it will be right vs wrong.
And I believe that. Ron Paul 2008
Right for America....
Hope for the world.
Ron Paul is not irrelevant as the totally ignorant blogger asserts. At least the CFR has told me they take his candidacy very seriously.
Remember, PJB won NH with only 6% polling, but he came out at 27%.
I love how the blogger declares the campaign dead when it's picking up speed and money every day.
Out of 29 in the Luntz focus group, 10% were Paul voters and that's just mainstream R's..
This blogger will just fade away in the court of public opinion. Ron Paul is the most respected man in congress, the most honorable and honest and true.
This is why he has over 40,000 volunteers in 800+ self organized groups all over the country.
Half the people at the Ron Paul event I just attended are ex_military so chew on that
Chew on this -- Ron Paul said that mall security guards are doing a BETTER job than Marines in Iraq.
Disgusting.
This writer more than likely was raised in a broken home, plays video games, may never have participated in organized sports, never served his country, cheated on tests and exames, and continues to fail to live up to his resume at work.
That's a keeper.
What I find EXTREMELY interesting about the comments here from Ron Paul supporters is that none address what the "good Dr" said about the Marines.
The closest to any direct comment is talk about ex-military being at Paul events.
Address the issue: Ron Paul said that mall security guards are doing a better job than Marines in Iraq.
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Ron Paul Is Right About the Failures of American Foreign Policy
Um...no, he's not.
How do you explain away the Islamic terror threats and radicalized Muslims in France and Germany? Two countries who opposed the war in Iraq? Are you going to blame it on American foreign policy, or French and German foreign policy?
What Ron Paul refuses to acknowledge is the ingredient of radical Islam. Anti-Americanism is all over the world, for various reasons, justified and unjustified; yet it doesn't turn people into homicide bombers and "holy warriors". What does, is wahabbism and salafist fundamentalist Islam that rejects modernity and the West, seeing the very existence an abomination to the world, and a threat to their strict way of life.
I explain the reason your seeing terrorist attacks in the other countries like Germany is because we have civilians there and it is a way for them to terrorize us. However you need to remember fighting every country to root out terrorism will never work and all you will end up doing is sacrifing all of your freedom for a false sense of security. Maybe the future will allow you people who fear terrorism so much the possibilty of moving to the moon where all of you fear mongers can live without fear in your own little bubble.
Spoken like a true Paul supporter.
The issue is: Ron Paul said that mall security guards are doing a better job than Marines in Iraq.
I was there at the KFI interview. I'd like to ask the person who wrote this nice little blog one, simple question:
Why does Ron Paul have the over-whelming support of monetary donations from ACTIVE AND RETIRED MILITARY?
You can look it up: FEC Quarterly
Do you think, just possibly that tells you that you might not only have the wrong idea about Paul but the wrong ideas about many, many things?
We're going to break our backs to get this guy elected.
I'm sure chiropractors thank you.
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