UPDATE, October 27, 2008: "The L.A. Times Suppresses Obama’s Khalidi Bash Tape," by Andrew McCarthy.
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Gateway Pundit reports that the Los Angeles Times is refusing to release a video of Barack Obama celebrating with a group of Palestinians who are openly hostile towards Israel.
Barack Obama toasts former PLO operative, Rashid Khalidi, at that event.
Gateway Pundit notes, "By the way, Khalidi was also best friends with Bill Ayers."
What a coinkydink!
Sunday, October 26, 2008
Barack Obama and Rashid Khalidi
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Why should we post anymore on your blog? You are managing the posts so heavily it's becoming a real disincentive to contributing to the conversation :(
I've never used comment moderation before, but my blog was bombarded by trolls. I know that you're certainly aware of that.
The comments you were leaving weren't about an exchange of ideas.
It wasn't conversation and debate.
I would prefer no comments on my posts to the harassing, ugly stuff that was being "contributed."
Mary - Perhaps you could address McCain's friendship with G. Gordon Liddy, a convicted felon who advocates the murder of federal agents.
By all means, use comment moderation to filter the use of foul language or abusive posts. But if you can't stand the heat then stop complaining about the filtering of views in main stream media... if it isn't good for them, it isn't good for you.
And just because I don't agree with you, doesn't make my comments "ugly"
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You don't make the rules here, "anonymous," 8:21 AM, October 26, 2008.
Very funny that you would be talking about "can't stand the heat," when the Obama-Biden campaign is attempting to silence dissent through such incredibly heavy-handed tactics.
Biden got huffy because he couldn't handle a reporter's questions so the Obama campaign has cut the station off. Biden wants to be a heartbeat away from the presidency but he can't give straight answers. Good grief.
All of this, plus the Left wants to bring back the Fairness (a.k.a. Censorship) Doctrine, and you're whining about my comment moderation?
Ridiculous.
Bottom line: I don't take kindly to trolls.
Liddy and Ayers?
You've got to be kidding.
How many boards did McCain and Liddy serve on together?
How many books did McCain blurb for Liddy?
Did Liddy say, "Guilty as sin, free as a bird, it's a great country"?
Was Liddy involved with extremists like this?
Get real.
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Larry Grathwohl became a member of the Weather Underground organization as an undercover operative for law enforcement agencies in Cincinnati. His role was to carry directives from the Central Committee to the operating units in the field.
GRATHWOHL: I brought up the subject of what's going to happen after we take over the government. You know, we become responsible for administrating, you know, 250 million people. And there was no answers. No one had given any thought to economics. How are you going to clothe and feed these people?
The only thing that I could get was that they expected that the Cubans, the North Vietnamese, the Chinese and the Russians would all want to occupy different portions of the United States.
They also believed that their immediate responsibility would be to protect against what they called the counter-revolution. And they felt that this counter-revolution could best be guarded against by creating and establishing re-education centers in the Southwest where we would take all of the people who needed to be re‑educated into the new way of thinking and teach them how things were going to be.
I asked, "Well, what is going to happen to those people that we can't re‑educate, that are die-hard capitalists?"
And the reply was that they'd have to be eliminated and when I pursued this further, they estimated that they'd have to eliminate 25 million people in these re‑education centers.
And when I say eliminate, I mean kill 25 million people.
I want you to imagine sitting in a room with 25 people, most of whom have graduate degrees from Columbia and other well-known educational centers and hear them figuring out the logistics for the elimination of 25 million people and they were dead serious.
The poor put upon terrorist Bill Ayers speaks:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2008/10/26/2008-10-26_60s_leftist_william_ayers_time_for_gop_t.html
I came across that article earlier today. Poor, poor Ayers.
It makes me sick!
And by the way, "August26," you changed the subject.
You ask me to comment on Liddy, yet you completely ignore the topic of this post, Obama and Khalidi.
Perhaps you'd like to address Obama's friendship with Khalidi.
They are good friends, REALLY good friends.
Well, I just read Khalidi's bio on Wikipedia and nothing in that struck me as terribly damning. He is critical of Israel. So what? You make it out as though he is some Palestician terrorist, rather than the American born college professor he is.
He and Obama are friends. Again, so what? From the article you cite:
His many talks with the Khalidis, Obama said, had been "consistent reminders to me of my own blind spots and my own biases. . . . It's for that reason that I'm hoping that, for many years to come, we continue that conversation — a conversation that is necessary not just around Mona and Rashid's dinner table," but around "this entire world."
Obama is open to learning from people he disagrees with. He is open to understanding the viewpoints of others and examining his own biases.
God forbid Obama befriend someone with different views than his own. Is it really so bad for people with different viewpoints to sit down and talk and even (gasp) become friends? If that were the case then I would have to assume that you are a horrible person who should be shunned by all right thinking people. Clearly I should stop associating with anyone who holds different beliefs and we should all stop reading you hateful blog. Or perhaps people with different views should talk and become friends and try to better understand each other's viewpoints so that the world might be a better, more understanding, place.
Frankly I don't care if McCain hangs out with Liddy - not the kind of person I would pick for a friend, but maybe he is a nice guy under that criminal mastermind, inciting to murder hard core exterior. My point is, both candidates are friends with people of questionable background/beliefs, so before you point out the speck in Obama's eye, perhaps you should take the log out of McCain's and your own.
If you really wanted to learn about Khalidi, you'd do more than go to Wikipedia.
Interesting that the Left characterizes Obama's buddies as respected scholars and professors rather than acknowledging the truth about them. It's a way to deflect.
The technique doesn't work on everyone.
This Liddy stuff is a joke, as I've explained elsewhere on my blog.
"Speck in Obama's eye"?
Now that's funny.
In your mind, how many specks does it take to make a log?
Is it really so bad for people with different viewpoints to sit down and talk and even (gasp) become friends? If that were the case then I would have to assume that you are a horrible person who should be shunned by all right thinking people. Clearly I should stop associating with anyone who holds different beliefs and we should all stop reading you hateful blog.
Be honest. You don't want to understand others.
Signed,
Horrible person
Author of hateful blog
Again - you've missed the point completely. I don't believe you to be a horrible person (thus the "If that were the case" statement in my previous post). However you and I hold very different beliefs. As far as I can tell, based on your logic, everyone who disagrees with you should shun you as you would have Obama shun Rashid Khalidi. Perhaps Khalidi is a really nice guy? Does being his friend necessarily mean Obama supports all of his positions? If you had the opportunity, would you want to sit down to dinner and conversation with President G. W. Bush? If you did, and became friends with President Bush, would that mean you condone and support torture?
The only reason I read your blog is because I am trying to wrap my head around your belief system. I would love to understand your position, and I would love to engage in a true discussion of the issues. However, as you almost never respond to my queries (I think this post is a first), but resort to casual brush offs and dismissals, this is rather difficult. As far as I can tell, you have a completely one-sided belief system: Republicans are always right and Democrats are always wrong.
For example, on 10/16, You said of Liddy: Liddy was a crook and he paid his debt to society. But you have repeatedly condemned Obama's relationship with Rezko, "a convicted felon," despite the fact that at the time Obama had a relationship with Rezko, Rezko had NOT YET been convicted of anything. So Liddy (Republican) has paid his debt to society, but Obama (Democrat) should have known through some innate fortune telling ability that Rezko was going to be found guilty of a felony.
For example (2), you label Ayers (Democrat) a terrorist, but Liddy (Republican) is a "crook". Among Liddy's ideas (which, thankfully, he didn't manage to implement): firebombing the Brookings Institute, kidnapping anti-war protesters, and assassinating journalists. Ayers' group bombed a statue (twice). Does Ayers believe people should be planting bombs today? No. Does Liddy believe that his listeners should be prepared to murder federal agents? Yes.
The problem with the term "terrorist" is that one person's terrorist is another person's "freedom fighter." It would seem (based on your lack of response to another post) that McCain's membership and commitment to the World Anti-Communist League and their support of death-squads in Central America is OK because groups like the Contras in Nicaragua (supported by the Republicans) were "freedom fighters" as opposed to the Weather Underground (supported 40 years ago by left-wing anti-american war protesters), who were "terrorists". And of course, the Weather Underground targeted the police and other authorities in protest of the war in Vietnam, while the Contras went after soft-targets (i.e., non-military), including civilians and missionaries, using such charming tactics as murder, rape, beatings, kidnapping and destroying crops.
In case you try to miss the point again, none of this is to say that Obama was right to serve on a board with Ayers or that he should have had business dealings with Rezko or that he should leave his children in the charge of the likes of Khalidi. In fact, I think it is great that people like you are finding this information and making it available. I want to understand and explore these issues, but your willingness to condemn one man for nearly everything he does while giving another man a free pass for doing the same things is astonishing. Everyone should be held to the same standard. But while you set that high standard for Obama, you set no standard at all for McCain or Palin or Bush, each of whom has at least as many skeletons in their closets. Maybe, as a conservative blogger, it isn't your job to find those skeletons, but when they do surface, you certainly shouldn't be brushing them aside as if they didn't matter.
Don't take this as a dismissal or a brush-off.
Your lengthy comment tosses out A LOT of stuff.
I simply can't address it all at the moment, but I do want to note that I completely understood your point.
I was joking about being a horrible person and writing a hateful blog, thus the signature.
You're wrong about me having a one-sided belief system.
You know, you don't give me much credit.
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