Tuesday, September 23, 2008

David Kernell, Mike Kernell, and Gabriel Ramuglia

UPDATE, November 14, 2008: Student's trial delayed in Palin hacking case
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UPDATE, October 8, 2008: Alleged Palin e-mail hacker goes to trial in December
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David Kernell, economics major at the University of Tennessee, and his family are going through a difficult period.

I can understand that. Being the subject of an investigation by the FBI can't be a lot of fun.


WASHINGTON (AP) -- The FBI searched the residence of the son of a Democratic state lawmaker in Tennessee over the weekend looking for evidence linking the young man to the hacking of Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin's personal e-mail account, two law enforcement officials told The Associated Press on Monday.

David Kernell, 20, has not returned repeated phone calls or e-mails from the AP since last week. His lawyer said Monday the family is going through a difficult period.

"The Kernell family wants to do the right thing, and they want what is best for their son," said attorney Wade V. Davies of Knoxville. "We are confident that the truth will emerge as we go through the process. David is a decent and intelligent young man, and I look forward to assisting him during this difficult period."

Kernell is the son of state Rep. Mike Kernell, a Memphis Democrat and chairman of Tennessee's House Government Operations Committee. The father declined last week to discuss the possibility his son might be involved in the case.

"I had nothing to do with it, I had no knowledge or anything," Mike Kernell told the AP last week.

"I was not a party to anything of this nature at all," he added. "I wasn't in on this — and I wouldn't know how to do anything like that."

No one answered the door at Mike Kernell's home in Memphis on Monday, and he did not return repeated phone calls Monday from the AP.

...A hacker last week broke into one of the Yahoo Inc. e-mail accounts that Palin uses, revealing as evidence a few inconsequential personal messages she has received since John McCain selected her as his running mate.

...During the break-in, the hacker used an Internet address that traced to David Kernell's apartment complex in Knoxville. The FBI obtained logs Saturday establishing the connection from Gabriel Ramuglia of Athens, Ga., who operates an Internet anonymity service used by the hacker.

Ramuglia told the AP the FBI asked him to confirm the address appeared in his records, and it did. Ramuglia said his logs showed the hacker visiting Yahoo's mail service, resetting Palin's password and announcing results of the break-in on a Web site where the hacking was first disclosed.

"I think he just didn't realize the severity of what he was doing until afterwards," Ramuglia said.

Technology is a wonderful thing.

This is damning evidence. The Internet address locates the hacker at David Kernell's apartment complex. It's kind of like technological DNA, strong evidence.

Once again, the supposed anonymity of the Internet crumbles. When will people learn that what they do online leaves a trail?

Perhaps the hacker believed he was safe because he was using Ramuglia's anonymity service. That was a serious error in judgment.

Ramuglia was smart to cooperate with the FBI. I'm sure he's not in the business of providing safe haven for people interested in committing crimes, or at least he realizes it wouldn't be in his own best interest to withhold evidence in a federal investigation.

Ramuglia is quoted as saying that he thinks the hacker didn't get the severity of his actions until afterwards.

I disagree with Ramuglia's assessment. A 20-year-old computer savvy college student gets it.

What 20-year-old thinks he can hack into the personal e-mail account of the Republican vice presidential candidate and then brag about his exploits online without realizing that what he's done is serious stuff?

No, I don't buy that excuse. I don't buy the "I'm young and naive" defense. Kernell and those of his ilk get it. I think they just have an air of invincibility and an arrogance about them. They think they're smarter than everyone else. They overestimate their abilities.

This AP report includes some interesting information on David Kernell's father, Tennesse lawmaker Mike Kernell, 56.


Kernell has a straight-laced reputation among his colleagues.

"Mike Kernell is your quintessential Boy Scout," said state Rep. John Deberry, another Democrat. "Mike follows the rules. He will almost get on your nerve as far as making sure things are done by the book."

"If Mike had known anything about this, he would have had a fit on his son," Deberry said. "When I saw his reaction when he first heard about it, the absolute fear and shock that was on his face, I realized then he had absolutely nothing to do with it."

Was the reaction on his face an indication that he had absolutely nothing to do with it, or was it the reaction of fear and shock that his son's alleged illegal activities had been discovered?

I don't know Mike Kernell. I'm willing to believe that he really didn't know what his son was allegedly doing. Still, the fact that he's a Dem elected official does raise questions as to what he knew and when he knew it, legitimate questions. That needs to be investigated as well.

Even if Mike Kernell had no knowledge of his son's alleged hacking, it casts a pall on him. That's not fair. His son is a big boy and Mike Kernell can't be held responsible for the actions of his adult son, if it's true that Mike Kernell had no involvement.


Experts said the hacker apparently left an easy trail for investigators.

"He might as well have taken a picture of his house and uploaded it," said Ken Pfeil, an Internet security expert. "He should have just set up a big beacon that said, 'Here's my house,' or confessed. If they can't catch this guy based on all the information posted on the Web then all bets are off."

Not too bright. I think the hacker probably put a lot of faith in Ramuglia's service. That was a mistake to think it gave him cover.

I assume that Ramuglia has stated policies outlining that he will cooperate with law enforcement in criminal investigations.

Maybe the hacker didn't read the fine print.

In the end, I hope justice is done.

The criminal needs to be held accountable for the violation of Sarah Palin's privacy.

This really is no different from breaking into her home or office and pawing through Gov. Palin's personal correspondence, hoping to find something to derail her candidacy.

It was no game.


Unfortunately, there's no end in sight to assaults that are being waged on Sarah Palin. The Dems know that she poses a threat. It's war.

10 comments:

Anonymous said...

I'm dying to know if Ramuglia charges for his service. Does anyone know this?

Brian said...

Palin was a threat for about a week...the new kid on the block...and popular for all the wrong reasons. let's get back to the issues. I can't wait until the debates.

Mary said...

"anonymous"--

Have you heard of Google?

Mary said...

You're wrong about Palin.

60,000 people in Florida-

A full house in Green Bay at the Resch Center last Thursday-

Just a week ago, John McCain and his vice-presidential nominee Sarah Palin — who can bring out crowds the way Obama can — appeared in this same stadium, Resch Center, to a crowd of 10,000 fans. There were an uncharacteristic amount of empty orange seats for Obama’s rally.

In their defense, Obama's backers note their rally was held on Monday at noon, compared to a Thursday night rally for McCain and Palin.


Her popularity isn't sliding. Moreover, where do you get off saying that she's "popular for all the wrong reasons"?

Someone could say the same thing about Obama.

I agree with you about the debates.

Brian said...

i'm interested in why you have a "red" state of mind.

my "blue" reasons--

i'm pro-choice.

for gay marriage. (i'm not gay, but if two people of the same sex are happy together, why should the government impede that...and folks always go to the bible...separation of church and state?)

believe in taxing the rich more than the poor.

the welfare program is needed, granted changes need to be made to its administration

i don't believe in government being hands off when it comes to the economic market.

dissent is not unpatriotic.
patriotism is more than bearing a flag and sending your son/daughter into the armed forces.

i'm against the war, especially one waged pre-emptively.

religion has no place in politics.


i don't have a problem with disagreeing with folks on these issues. in terms of the obama/mccain debate, obama was attacked for months on "experience" ...i'm not sure what type of experience one needs to run for president...i mean look at past presidents, the level of experience in government varies. i don't believe being a war-hero makes one ready to be president, unless of course one's primary goal when in office is to wage one.

i'm all for a woman being a candidate for pres/vice pres, but considering the many qualified women on the shortlist, palin seems like a "safe" choice...with little being known about her stance on issues beyond the rhetorical support of mccain's policies, with the mccain/palin camp wanting to keep it that way, most recently with the UN trip sans media.

well, i could go on, but i'll wait for a response.

as you probably can tell, i am quite liberal.

Mark said...

Of course they "get it".

They are banking on the fact that their willing accomplices in the media will protect them.

And that is something Republicans don't seem to get.

Mary said...

Mark,

The lib media have really lost it.

They don't even pretend to be fair anymore. They're positively deranged. What they're doing is so self-destructive.
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Brian,

I can't condense my beliefs into a short list. I'm uncomfortable with that. I'd have to write a book to answer your question adequately.

It's not as black and white and simple as you make it out to be.

So VERY generally speaking--

I once was a lib, but I grew up.

I became a champion of personal responsibility.

My freedoms are important to me. I don't want big government to infringe on my rights.

I'm not into the redistribution of wealth and penalizing people for hard work, though as a Catholic I believe strongly in my moral obligation to care for my neighbor.

I respect life, in all its stages and conditions.

As an Independent and former Democrat voter, I find that Republican candidates currently are more in line with where I stand.

I have yet to find a perfect candidate for me. I always have some disagreements on some issues with each candidate.

Brian said...

when you say "personal responsibility"...what exactly do you mean?...in terms of finding a job? education? I don't believe the playing field is level, with my roots in the inner-city and the public school system...i do take personal responsibility for my successes and failures but there are so many variables, it's hard for me to not see that many are born with access to opportunities that others are never privy to.



i'll agree that liberals are idealistic, and i am a very idealistic person.

what was the turning point for you, in terms of "growing up"?

the reason i ask is b/c i think it's easy to demonize and pigeonhole any point of view, something i've been guilty of in the past. i guess i'm trying to mature as a person.

Mary said...

Trying to mature as a person and expand your perspective is a worthy effort. Good for you.

I'm sorry, but you're asking questions that I can't answer simply.

Various events in my life have shaped my beliefs, and I'm not going to get into my life story here. Too complicated.

Brian said...

fair enough. take care.